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Thursday, February 24, 2005

Wingnuts keep pushing

More from the crazies who think that if only women knew that being pregnant means that you are on the road to having a baby of your very own, then you certainly would never consider getting an abortion.

BOISE - Republican Representative Ann Rydalch wants the state to require doctors to show women pictures of a fetus before an abortion. But her legislation may not be supported by all of the state's anti-abortion groups.

Rydalch's bill also would force doctors to give women information about abortion alternatives, and tell them that abortion could increase the risk for breast cancer. The National Institutes of Health denies any link between abortion and breast cancer, however.

"Informed consent" is an anti-choice catchphrase that has absolutely nothing to do with the traditionally understanding of what information is--you know, the whole facts and truths stuff that the rest of us think of when we think of being "informed". Telling women that they are going to get breast cancer if they have an abortion is lies, not information. You might as well tell them that if they dare abort, god will curse them for life by making toads and snakes fly out of their mouths when they speak.

As for the pictures thing, I doubt the pictures that Rep. Rydalch wants to show of fetuses would be constrained to pictures of fetuses at the same point in the pregnancy that most women are aborting at. It just doesn't have the same impact to show a one-month fetus that doesn't resemble a human as it does to show an 8-month one.

These proposed laws that treat women like ignorant children that need to be scolded in order to get an abortion get sillier all the time. What next? A law stating that a woman has to sincerely promise never to fornicate again before she earns her Constitutional right to terminate her pregnancy?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The anti-choice/anti-women groups are hoping to play on the myth of women's "biologically ingrained maternalism" that would--according to them--make women all "gah-gah" over the fetus and want to carry it to full term. Even if the pregnancy was the result of rape, or it's a teenage girl, a woman living in poverty, or a single woman has no financial support whatsoever in being a single parent.

And "informed consent" according to the anti-choice zealots are scare tactics and condescending propaganda such as assuming that all women are these little girls who all want little babies of their own. Because let's face it--having babies are always wonderful for the woman, no matter what, and real-life babies are just like those cute little baby dolls you had as a little girl!!!

These people don't give half-a-shit about women. They only care about keeping women pregnant against their will, by presenting absurd and fictitious images of motherhood being ever so wonderful under any condition. And a fetus is the equivalent of an actual person walking down the street, and a fetus apparently has more rights and value than the woman carrying "it".

2/24/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHATEVER YOUR VIEW IS ON ABORTION AND HOW YOU FEEL IT MAKES WOMAN LOOK TO BE INFORMED IS REALLY NOT THE ISSUE.THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR WHEN IT SAYS THOU SHALT NOT KILL.BOTTOM LINE IS IT IS A SIN TO TAKE THE LIFE OF A CHILD{FETUS}.GOD WILL FORGIVE THIS SIN IF SINCERILY ASK BUT IT IS WRONG NO MATTER HOW YOUN MIGHT WANT TO JUSTIFY IT.

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh hell. Enjoy the psychotic anti-choice fucktard trolls Amanda :-)

2/25/2005

 
Blogger Amanda Marcotte said...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

All caps, too. How....1997.

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The psychotic and ridiculous little anti-choice troll also forgot to mention that the Bible has been very instrumental in justifying the systematic oppression of women and slavery.

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good heavens. I'm glad they want to offer me the chance to be, uh, informed. I mean, if they didn't show me a picture of a fetus, I might actually be convinced I was, I dunno, aborting a puppy, or having my appendix removed or something. Thank God for all those smart people who want to protect people like me who are always signing up for surgery without bothering to find out what it is!

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funnily, the Jews--you know, the people who did that whole Old Testmanet thing--don't think abortion is always killing, much less murder.

Many years ago, I lived in a Midwestern state where the idjits tried to pass an 'informed consent' bill. Democrats managed to amend it so that it ALSO required informing women of the potential medical risks of childbirth. The bill was withdrawn.

2/25/2005

 
Blogger ValerieAnne said...

Actually, the bible is very clear on the value of the fetus. In the Old Testament, the child wasn't considered a soul until it breathed.
This is from religioustolerance.org:
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_biblh.htm)

Genesis 38:24 Tamar's pregnancy was discovered three months after conception, presumably because it was visible at that time. This was positive proof that she had been sexually active. Because she was a widow, without a husband, she was assumed to be a prostitute. Her father-in-law Judah ordered that she be burned alive for her crime. If Tamar's twin fetuses had been considered to have any value whatsoever, her execution would have been delayed until after their birth. There was no condemnation on Judah for deciding to take this action. (Judah later changed his mind when he found out that he was responsible for Tamar's pregnancy.)

2 Kings
Numbers 31:17-18 Now, kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. This occurred at end of the genocidal campaign against the Midianites. Moses, presumably under orders from God, ordered the soldiers to kill every boy and non-virgin woman. Presumably, a significant percentage of the latter would be pregnant. So, their fetus was killed along with the mother-to-be. The female virgins would be spared, because they were considered to have value. The fetuses would be destroyed, presumably because they were perceived to have had no value.

15:16 He [Menahem, king of Israel] sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. He apparently was angry that the people of Tiphsah refused to open the gates of the city. Considering the state of medical sophistication at the time, all of the pregnant women and their fetuses probably died. The king obviously gave no value to the life of a fetus.
Hosea 13:15-16 I will have no compassion...the people of Samaria...will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground; their pregnant women ripped open. Their crime was that they had changed their religious belief. God obviously exhibited profound hatred against people who worship another deity, and assigned no value to the fetuses of the pregnant women who were obviously not involved in the selection of a new religion.

Go ahead and read more on the site I mentioned. It's very interesting. I only published these passages for those who might think the bible condemns abortion. It's actually not really mentioned.

2/25/2005

 
Blogger BlondebutBright said...

In discussing the Oscar nomination of the film Vera Drake, David Rearden, an "abortion harms" researcher, said: "If the international community is serious about protecting women from unsafe abortions, it will work diligently to reverse the trend toward legalized abortion." Does that make any sense?

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the most insulting thing about these informed consent ideas is what they imply about women who have abortions. They imply that she hasn't thought about it, that it never occured to her that what is inside her is a life, and could one day be a person. I imagine the dialogue that goes on in the head of an informed-consentor in an abortion clinic.

(Patient skips in merily, humming gleefully to herself)

Patient: Abortion, abortion, everybody loves abortion! Hi! I want an abortion today! No, make it a dozen, if you have a bulk buyers' discount!

Doctor: Well... there's actually a tiny, baby-like fetus in you, you know, and when you have an abortion, it kills the fetus. Here, take a look at these ultrasound pictures.

Patient (in shock): What? You mean a baby doesn't instantaneously form just before childbirth after nine months of inanimate chemical reactions cause the belly to swell, mysterious kicking feelings to be felt, and all that stuff? There's something that might one day be a BABY in there? I had no idea! I can't do this in good conscience!

There's this image of a woman who somehow hasn't thought about the moral implications of abortion, yet has one "casually." There may be one in a thousand women who get abortions, but overall its a chimera. Women already think about the moral implications of their actions. Some find abortion to objectionable, and decide to carry the fetus to term. Some find abortion to be morally acceptable, and decide to abort it. I find it rather insulting to think that if you just tell these women what's really up, they'll suddenly change.

2/25/2005

 
Blogger horsesshouldbesoluckytoo said...

Hope I don't diverge but here goes: i was an adopted person,an orphan in 1950,adopted to a chosen home so alive instead of a dead fetus i am but i keep hearing how wonderful life is but i don't see any evidence of that.DEpends on the definition of wonderful i guess.Not all adopted families end with success by the way.Some adults have what 's named adult adoptive trauma that lasts a life time and inhibits a comparable life experience to all those who aren't adopted.
Very similiar to holocaust survivors: no reatives ,no connections,loneliness and difficulty forming relationships.Sad in a way ,unfulfilling.
Many of the antiabortionists do not take into account the poverty life can bring and the depravity and the assorted ills,life can be terminated by the person carrying the fetus no doubt.If occluded from abortion many woman have destroyed their own,i think that's a greater evil if one must judge,so i don't.

2/25/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course they do. They've got theirs, screw everybody else--especially when you can bemoan your choice in hindsight and forget about what it would be like had you not made that choice.

2/26/2005

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'They only care about keeping women pregnant against their will, by presenting absurd and fictitious images of motherhood being ever so wonderful under any condition'

Oh please...this kind of comment is as extreme as the one in all caps and none of you can see it. Whenever someone tries to discuss the other side of this issue, unreal extremes are always used as the basis for choice. Oh yeah there's a Satanist Republican Conservative Secret Cabal that lives to keep women pregnant against their will and keeps track of their misery by the microchips they implanted at their forced prenatal check-ups.

How about some responsibility and some thought BEFORE you do the horizontal mambo? Let's see...1,700,000 abortoins.

3% are for rape/incest/save mother's life
2% are boo-boos from the Pill (2% failure rate)
2% are from improperly used condoms (accepted failure rate)
5% for failed diaphragms (accepted failure rate)
That accounts for 11% .What of the other 1,513,000? Not lack of responsibility, oh no. Must be something else.

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